You know things are bad when you have to keep adjusting the Y axis scale, to allow lower and lower levels of equity....
And yes, I am trading with real money (unfortunately!)
Formerly "Trading In A Futures Contest - 2012" - My trading journey - a mechanical trader trying to make a discretionary approach succeed.
Friday, July 6, 2012
Wednesday, July 4, 2012
In Case You Like My Advice...
Tomorrow, Thursday July at 8 PM EDT I will be giving a free live webinar on "How to Trade Like A Champ."
I won't be discussing my abysmal contest performance, but I will be giving some (hopefully) good advice on trading. I'll also be talking a bit about my SFE Trading System (full disclosure: I do offer the SFE System for sale).
If you've enjoyed this blog, I think you'll see the same kind of truthful, down to earth advice during the webinar.
Anyhow, if you are interested, you can get more information here:
http://www.kjtradingsystems.com/web001.html
Thanks!
I won't be discussing my abysmal contest performance, but I will be giving some (hopefully) good advice on trading. I'll also be talking a bit about my SFE Trading System (full disclosure: I do offer the SFE System for sale).
If you've enjoyed this blog, I think you'll see the same kind of truthful, down to earth advice during the webinar.
Anyhow, if you are interested, you can get more information here:
http://www.kjtradingsystems.com/web001.html
Thanks!
62% Max Drawdown - Yikes!!!!
Well, I recovered a tad from my low point. Still, I'm down about 35% on the year, with a whopping 62% maximum drawdown.
You know the warnings at the bottom of the screen during reckless TV commercials? I think that warning should be my new blog title:
"Don't Attempt This At Home!"
Seriously, I hope my adventures in this contest make everyone realize that trading can be a roller coaster, can be nerve wracking and can be hazardous to your financial health!
You know the warnings at the bottom of the screen during reckless TV commercials? I think that warning should be my new blog title:
"Don't Attempt This At Home!"
Seriously, I hope my adventures in this contest make everyone realize that trading can be a roller coaster, can be nerve wracking and can be hazardous to your financial health!
Sunday, July 1, 2012
A Half To Forget...
Not too much I can say. Ended the month, and the first half of the year, at an all time low.
I'll keep pushin' on, though!
I'll keep pushin' on, though!
Thursday, June 28, 2012
How Should It Look?
I received some questions on my Monte Carlo analysis. Basically, I use it to compare my actual performance to my expected performance (based on historical data).
In the last post, I found that my contest account is underperforming, and is close to the area where I might have to make some tough decisions/changes.
For reference, below is an example of another of my systems (Full disclosure: I sell this particular system on my website). It is behaving pretty much as expected, although currently below the average line. So, I wanted you to see what a "typical" performance chart looked like.
To answer the question, I create similar charts for every system I trade, although usually I just have the average line and actual line on the chart. That way I can easily see how things are going!
In the last post, I found that my contest account is underperforming, and is close to the area where I might have to make some tough decisions/changes.
For reference, below is an example of another of my systems (Full disclosure: I sell this particular system on my website). It is behaving pretty much as expected, although currently below the average line. So, I wanted you to see what a "typical" performance chart looked like.
To answer the question, I create similar charts for every system I trade, although usually I just have the average line and actual line on the chart. That way I can easily see how things are going!
Wednesday, June 27, 2012
Is It Broken?
Note: Sorry in advance for the long post. I hope you find it worth your reading time!
A reader posted this terrific comment: "I'm curious about your take on the performance so far. Is it a question of the system being misaligned with the modus operandi of the current market, bad money management, of something else?"
This is an outstanding question, because we've all been there - you are in the midst of trading a supposed "winning" system, yet losing money doing so!
This question is like an onion, with many layers. So, let's start peeling...
First, the reader is asking because my contest system is losing money. That losing can't be denied. But notice how he asks the question - he is thinking/wondering something is wrong (misalignment, bad money management). Makes total sense, of course. If it isn't making money, something must be wrong, correct?
Well, maybe something is wrong, and maybe not. As I write this, I honestly don't know the answer. We'll examine that together later.
But for now, that thinking brings us to the second layer on the onion. Most people, myself included, usually assume something is wrong with a trading system when it loses money. And once you convince yourself that something is wrong, the normal human response is to try to "fix" it.
Change parameters, change instruments, change stops, add a filter etc. Just change SOMETHING! Get it working right!
Usually, that is the wrong thing to do (unless the system is indeed "broken"). Making fixes as you go usually ends up like being on a hamster wheel - you go round and round, but never get anywhere. You are chasing performance, and you end up making bad decisions because of it. So the lesson here is to be aware of the questions you ask yourself - you may be assuming things which will lead you astray.
Why is trying to implement a fix wrong? The answer is in the third layer of the onion - probabilities. Many people don't realize that even a historically profitable system may have a prolonged losing streak in the future. For any system, there is a chance - a non-zero probability - that you will lose most/all your money trading it.
In the long run (years and years) the system might be profitable with 99% probability, but in the short run ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. And the shorter the time frame, the more likely it is that something bad will occur. You have to give the probabilities enough time to kick in. Think of a casino. On any one spin of the roulette wheel, the casino may lose money. But since the odds are in the house's favor, over many tables, and many spins, they (the casino) are almost guaranteed to win.
OK, so what does this actually mean? Here is a real world example. Unfortunately for me, I'll use my losing contest account. This analysis will answer: "Is Kevin's contest system broken?"
For my contest system, I had previously determined through testing that on "average" (keyword here) should get something like this:
Avg Profit Per Trade = $206
# Trades per Year = 101
Avg Profit Per Year = $20,806
At this point, I should be up roughly $10,000. Instead, I'm down around $2,000.
"Is this kind of actual performance possible, given these historical statistics?"
To answer the question, I'll use what is called Monte Carlo analysis. Basically, you put all the trade results in a hat, and randomly pick one after another, until you've pulled 50 trades (in my case) out of the hat. Adding these values up, you build an equity curve.
Obviously, if you do this one time, you might get lucky, pick all winning trades, and have a great equity curve. Or, you might pull all losers, and have a terrible equity curve. There is a low probability of each of these possible equity curves happening. But, the point is ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN when you do this process once.
So, to get meaningful results, you repeat this process 100 or 1000 or 10,000 times. Then, you can see some interesting things.
I built a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet to do this. It is based on the simulator I offer free on my website.
Here are the results, with my system...
1. Average Performance [Dark Gray line] The chart below shows, on average, how my contest account should be doing. After 6 months (50 trades), I should have about $10,000 in profit. That agrees with the earlier analysis. The line is a little wavy, due to the random nature of the simulation.
2. Actual Performance [Blue line, with dots] Here is my actual performance, overlaid on the same graph. Yuk! But, it is a great visual check of where I "should" be and where I am actually at. Based on this, maybe there is a problem...
3. 95% Best Case Performance [Green Line] If I run the simulation 100 times, some of the equity curves will look great. This line is the 95% percentile line, meaning that there is only a 5% chance that the performance will be better than this. If my performance was above this line, I'd be happy, but I'd also be wondering if something was "wrong." Good "wrong," but still a concern.
4. 5% Worst Case Performance [Red Line] Again, running the simulation multiple times gives you this curve. It says there is a 5% chance that my performance would be below this line. I'd be worried if it was below the line - something could be broken.
At this point, you might be thinking "All this analysis is ridiculous! You still aren't making money!!! What does all this goofy analysis tell you?!?"
Here is what I learned:
A. My current performance is within the range of what is expected (above 5% line, below 95% line).
B. My actual performance is at the 13% percentile. Meaning, I am currently pretty unlucky, and my antenna should be up that something may be wrong with the system. Not panic time yet, though. Not time to change the system. But, I want to be above 50%, and until I get there, I'll be closely watching.
C. If I want a "guaranteed" profit, I have to trade this system for at least 100 trades (imagine when the red 5% line crosses zero). In other words, I have to be patient, and give the probabilities time to work.
D. At this point, I am in the "major disappointment" zone, not in the "panic" zone.
I hope you found this long post useful. It was useful to me!
Tuesday, June 26, 2012
Forces Are Aligning...Against Me
Sometimes it seems like the market is just conspiring against me. Who knows, maybe it really is - after all, the market's job is to transfer money.
The last few weeks have really felt that way for me. It is confidence sapping, and emotionally depressing.
The only cure is to push through - continue working on new projects, writing, etc. And of course, continue trading per the plan, without emotional decisions interfering. So, continue to do everything as normal. Experience, though, tells me that it is much more enjoyable and fun to do all these activities as equity is rising!
Still down about 20% as of Monday close. But looks like more down on Tuesday...
The last few weeks have really felt that way for me. It is confidence sapping, and emotionally depressing.
The only cure is to push through - continue working on new projects, writing, etc. And of course, continue trading per the plan, without emotional decisions interfering. So, continue to do everything as normal. Experience, though, tells me that it is much more enjoyable and fun to do all these activities as equity is rising!
Still down about 20% as of Monday close. But looks like more down on Tuesday...
Sunday, June 24, 2012
Contest Position Update
Contest Position Update Information
I think there is a useful lesson in my performance for small traders, so I thought I'd share it:
Total Open Equity: +$1000 approx
Equity/Initial Margin = 100% (can't add new positions)
Big Losers: 2 (1 is near stop)
Little Losers: 3
Little Winners: 3
Big Winners: 2 (for both of these I have doubled size)
Since I can't add new positions, I have had to skip a bunch of signals. Currently, there are 6 open positions I missed:
Big Losers: 1
Little Losers: 0
Little Winners: 3
Big Winners: 2
There is an important lesson here. The idea with system trading is that you take every signal, since the results of any one signal are essentially random (anything can happen). If your system has an edge, then over time taking every signal is the only sensible way to go.
If you are undercapitalized, like I am in this system account, then you may have to skip signals. If earlier trades had done a bit better, I'd have enough equity to not skip signals.
To repeat an earlier post, I funded this account with the bare minimum, since the contest is based on % return. If the contest was instead $ return, I would have initially funded it with more money. Again, decisions like this go back to your objectives and goals.
LESSONS:
1. FUND YOUR ACCOUNT WITH ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE ALL TRADES
2. MAKE SURE YOUR FUNDING AND SYSTEM ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
I think there is a useful lesson in my performance for small traders, so I thought I'd share it:
Total Open Equity: +$1000 approx
Equity/Initial Margin = 100% (can't add new positions)
Big Losers: 2 (1 is near stop)
Little Losers: 3
Little Winners: 3
Big Winners: 2 (for both of these I have doubled size)
Since I can't add new positions, I have had to skip a bunch of signals. Currently, there are 6 open positions I missed:
Big Losers: 1
Little Losers: 0
Little Winners: 3
Big Winners: 2
There is an important lesson here. The idea with system trading is that you take every signal, since the results of any one signal are essentially random (anything can happen). If your system has an edge, then over time taking every signal is the only sensible way to go.
If you are undercapitalized, like I am in this system account, then you may have to skip signals. If earlier trades had done a bit better, I'd have enough equity to not skip signals.
To repeat an earlier post, I funded this account with the bare minimum, since the contest is based on % return. If the contest was instead $ return, I would have initially funded it with more money. Again, decisions like this go back to your objectives and goals.
LESSONS:
1. FUND YOUR ACCOUNT WITH ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE ALL TRADES
2. MAKE SURE YOUR FUNDING AND SYSTEM ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
Saturday, June 23, 2012
Weekend Update, Step 10
Contest Update
Almost 6 months into the contest, and I'm down 20%. Not exactly how I had envisioned! But then again, trading has never been a smooth upward ride for me (and, I suspect, is not that way for most people).
Flat/down periods, followed by quick jumps up, is generally how things go, at least historically. Of course, this can be mentally draining, since the flat/down periods tend to make you think you are trading incorrectly/poorly. The markets have a way of breeding indecision, lack of self confidence, impatience, frustration, worry, and a million other bad feelings. It is quite amazing, actually, at how the market can ruin your psyche.
At this point, I'll continue to ignore those bad feelings - I'll keep sticking to the Trading Plan, and see where it leads!
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The Trading Process - Incubate - Step 10
In this post, I'll give you a tip that is one of the best things I do. It is also one of the hardest. It is called "incubation."
The idea is that once you develop a strategy, following all the correct steps, you don't trade it right away. You just put the strategy aside for 3-6 months.
Of course, since you just finished the development, you want to start trading it TODAY! Just think of all those dollars headed out the window, as you let the strategy sit! That is what makes this step so difficult - no one wants to spend months developing a strategy, only to let it sit for months on end.
BUT, how do you know for sure that you didn't "cheat" while developing the strategy? How do you know that you used the correct process?
The simple fact is nothing (except for real money trading) beats results with future data, and that's what you get by incubating.
I personally put a strategy aside, and look at it once a month. If, after 4-6 months, the performance is close to my historical testing, then I may allocate money to it.
Many times, especially when I first started using the incubation process, I weeded out many "bad" strategies. In some cases, I went back and determined that my strategy development process had some flaws. Thankfully, incubation hleped me make improvements, without costing me money!
Next: If there is a fire, you better know where the exit is!
Almost 6 months into the contest, and I'm down 20%. Not exactly how I had envisioned! But then again, trading has never been a smooth upward ride for me (and, I suspect, is not that way for most people).
Flat/down periods, followed by quick jumps up, is generally how things go, at least historically. Of course, this can be mentally draining, since the flat/down periods tend to make you think you are trading incorrectly/poorly. The markets have a way of breeding indecision, lack of self confidence, impatience, frustration, worry, and a million other bad feelings. It is quite amazing, actually, at how the market can ruin your psyche.
At this point, I'll continue to ignore those bad feelings - I'll keep sticking to the Trading Plan, and see where it leads!
************************************
The Trading Process - Incubate - Step 10
In this post, I'll give you a tip that is one of the best things I do. It is also one of the hardest. It is called "incubation."
The idea is that once you develop a strategy, following all the correct steps, you don't trade it right away. You just put the strategy aside for 3-6 months.
Of course, since you just finished the development, you want to start trading it TODAY! Just think of all those dollars headed out the window, as you let the strategy sit! That is what makes this step so difficult - no one wants to spend months developing a strategy, only to let it sit for months on end.
BUT, how do you know for sure that you didn't "cheat" while developing the strategy? How do you know that you used the correct process?
The simple fact is nothing (except for real money trading) beats results with future data, and that's what you get by incubating.
I personally put a strategy aside, and look at it once a month. If, after 4-6 months, the performance is close to my historical testing, then I may allocate money to it.
Many times, especially when I first started using the incubation process, I weeded out many "bad" strategies. In some cases, I went back and determined that my strategy development process had some flaws. Thankfully, incubation hleped me make improvements, without costing me money!
Next: If there is a fire, you better know where the exit is!
Friday, June 22, 2012
Entries and Exits
There is a good discussion going on over at the Tradestation User forum about entries and exits. If you are a registered TS user, you can access it here: https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=120700
For everyone else, I thought I'd post a couple of comments I left today about entries and exits...
"As for me, my history shows that I am pretty bad at getting "good" entries, and pretty bad at getting "good" exits. For almost every trade, I seem to enter at the wrong time, and exit at the wrong time. New trades almost always go against me - usually immediately. Existing trades sometimes go from profit into loss.
My systems sometimes seem to have a penchant for buying at the peak, and selling at the low (some of my favorites I post at my blog). Through all that I seem to survive. For me, then, I think it is when I exit - before too much damage is done on losses, and trying to ride winners for a long time. It is tough, though.
To me, what I said about having "bad" entries and having "bad" exits is the funny part about trading. You can do well overall, even though it seems like you aren't doing well on most trades.
Maybe it is me maturing as a trader. In the old days, I used to really get bummed out when a new trade would immediately turn against me. Now I realize that almost every trade - eventual winners and eventual losers - are losing trades at some point. Most are winning, too at some point. So, I try to just let things play out, per the system, realizing my results will be far from "perfect."
The other thing I have found is that if I start to actually deep down believe I am a great trader, then that is when I am most vulnerable to making big mistakes (changing a system with improper testing, adding size too quickly, abandoning research because everything I have is doing great, etc).
So, I try to treat every day as my last as a trader - before I have to go back and get a "real" job."
For everyone else, I thought I'd post a couple of comments I left today about entries and exits...
"As for me, my history shows that I am pretty bad at getting "good" entries, and pretty bad at getting "good" exits. For almost every trade, I seem to enter at the wrong time, and exit at the wrong time. New trades almost always go against me - usually immediately. Existing trades sometimes go from profit into loss.
My systems sometimes seem to have a penchant for buying at the peak, and selling at the low (some of my favorites I post at my blog). Through all that I seem to survive. For me, then, I think it is when I exit - before too much damage is done on losses, and trying to ride winners for a long time. It is tough, though.
To me, what I said about having "bad" entries and having "bad" exits is the funny part about trading. You can do well overall, even though it seems like you aren't doing well on most trades.
Maybe it is me maturing as a trader. In the old days, I used to really get bummed out when a new trade would immediately turn against me. Now I realize that almost every trade - eventual winners and eventual losers - are losing trades at some point. Most are winning, too at some point. So, I try to just let things play out, per the system, realizing my results will be far from "perfect."
The other thing I have found is that if I start to actually deep down believe I am a great trader, then that is when I am most vulnerable to making big mistakes (changing a system with improper testing, adding size too quickly, abandoning research because everything I have is doing great, etc).
So, I try to treat every day as my last as a trader - before I have to go back and get a "real" job."
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